BFRO Youtube Channel
By Moose Magnet | February 13, 2010
It has been a while since we have been active. However… that aside I would like to inform you about the BFRO Youtube channel. You need to go there and check it out. I have also put a link on our blog so you can come back to it anytime.
We should start things up in Utah again in a couple of months. We have been doing research during the winter and have some new areas to check out with new witnesses. Should be loads of fun.
Cheers,
Moose Magnet
John…
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More on the NoCal Fall BFRO 2009 Expedition…
By Moose Magnet | October 4, 2009
I would like to add some additional information about the area that the subject was viewed for sixty five minutes. I was not there but I was the person who did go down and check the area out. I was also used as a reference for the witnesses. I went there with Boogeyman who led the group that night. We also had one other witness with us who I will refer to a ‘M’. I was the logical choice to venture down the slope to where the subject was. The slope was fairly steep and was littered with dead fall, branches of every size, under growth, shrubs, ferns and small trees. Needless to say it sucked getting down there and I got torn up doing so. One thing that was noticed right away is that Boogeyman and M could not hear me after about twenty yards. The sound seamed to be absorbed by the forest. I was not being quite because it was next to impossible plus I didn’t have the time because I had a casting class I had to teach. Boogeyman and M directed me to the location using the thermal. A short distance from the location I noticed that everything I had been moving through to reach the area was no longer a problem and became thinner as I closed in on the target area. In other words the area became very easy to manage and appeared to have been cleared out. Mind you I was still under the same canopy of trees which would result in the same terrain as I had previously been through. After examining the area I noticed several impression in the needles and duff. They were large flat impressions. I could definitively see that something large had been walking around the area. (Note: I could not find any tracks from a hoofed animal in this particular area) After they navigated me to the area it was obvious that the foliage was taller than me in the area and that if they were not looking through the thermal or if I did not move the branches they could not see me. The subject they were viewing that night had to much taller to be seen above the foliage. My friend and M also mentioned that the subject had about three times the mass I had. I’m about 280 pounds and six foot one. After they were satisfied with the location I told them I wanted to look around in greater detail. To make a long story short I found two small knolls that appeared to be viewing areas. They were more compact than everywhere else and I could see the dirt through the needles and duff. Leading up to one knoll I found a good track line. It appeared the subject approached up the small incline to the first knoll. The prints dug into the duff exposing the dirt underneath. It pushed off with the front of the foot. The print was around seven inches wide. From print to print was just over six feet leaving the stride length from toe to heel at just over five feet going up hill. Extremely large stride for going up hill (the average human stride is about three feet on flat ground). All other tracks were compression in the duff. The area appeared to be groomed and large branches and undergrowth had been removed or trampled through time. I also noticed that from these two knolls I could see an extremely large section of the trail. This was a perfect viewing area. I would dare say something could be there in broad day light viewing people moving along the trail. It would be interesting to be there during the day with a thermal looking for anything down in this area I was now standing in. On the way out I wanted to test something. I called up to my friend and wanted them to listen as I broke various sizes of branches. They did not hear me until I broke a branch that was about an inch and half in diameter. I wish I would have known that the night before when I was there. We heard branches breaking from the same area. In order for us to hear that the branches logically would have to be the same size or larger and that being said would lead me to believe a large animal was down there. Anyway there is my two cents. Here are some pictures of the area. Click on the links to see the pictures.
This is the upper divit closest to the first knoll. Notice the twig in the track. You will see it in other pictures.
My measuring tape is on the uphill side of the tracks leading to the knoll. I have arrows pointing to both prints.
My back pack is by the north knoll. The upper track is in the bottom of the picture. I am facing in the direction of where my friend is up on the path above me.
To the right is the north knoll and though it may not look like it the south knoll is to the left.
This is to the left of the track line. You will notice that past the tree it becomes thick again.
Personally I did not have anything significant that I can say was Squatchy on this trip. Boogeyman and I did have three bears visit us one night. In fact one was very determined to cross the small walking bridge we were on. It took a bit of effort to discourage his efforts. I had tons of fun and it was nice meeting new people, making new friends and catching up with old ones. Now I have to wait until next year. It is going to be a long winter.
John…
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Bigfoot Basics: Sex, Food & Shelter
By Boogeyman | September 23, 2009
Bigfoot Basics: Sex, Food & Shelter
When critically examining theories about Bigfoot behaviors, I have difficulty accepting they have characteristics and abilities that can’t be found in any other animal species. In fact to me it is pushing the limit if said attributes can’t be found somewhere else within the primate world. I don’t’ think this is a narrow minded approach that limits our understanding, quite the opposite. I think it should help researchers and field investigator hone in on what is critical and what isn’t.
For example, recently in the Bigfoot world there has been a shift in our understanding of wood knocking. It is becoming accepted by most serious researchers, myself included, that some of the wood knocks heard are not in fact a wooden club being hit against a tree or log. Instead they are somehow manufacturing the sound with their own bodies, either by clapping, smacking their lips or popping their tongue. These types of actions can be readily found in both the primate world and among primitive, indigenous people. In this example it is easy for me to reassess my thinking about wood knocking behavior and based on other known animal behavior accept this theory.
This new idea of clapping just happens to dove tails nicely with some personal and second hand experiences I am familiar with and for me clarifies more than it confounds. On the other hand if no other primate made noise in a similar fashion, I wouldn’t accept that Sasquatches could either. Now my approach to wood knocking will include simulated clapping as a method of locating, attracting, antagonizing or communicating with these animals. Who knows where it leads, maybe they know Morse Code?
So let’s get back to the basics. Every large animal species needs three things to survive individually and as a whole. Sustenance, shelter and sex, take one away and they eventually become extinct. Following the basic litmus test I apply to Sasquatches, they must also need all three, like other animals and other primates. They need the basics.
Sustenance appears to be the area we know the most about. Their ability to eat a wide range of foods, including prey, has been witnessed numerous times and is probably a key factor in their diverse range and highly successful survival skills. Food sources are one of the first things most field investigators look for when determining the presence of Sasquatches, in fact food is always a key element in any legitimate habituation. I think evidence of food gathering, and left over dead prey animals will play a larger and larger role in proving these animals reside in certain areas at certain times.
Shelter is a word that can mean different things to different people. My shelter while in the field is either a Springbar tent or my famous bear burrito, (a tent hammock). To someone, or something else it may be nothing more than a tree branch over their head. To whatever degree you apply the term shelter; all animals have learned how to shelter themselves from the elements, predators and detection from humans.
In the case of Sasquatches there are several possibilities if we look to known primate examples for guidance. Monkeys and great apes have been documented using nests, large leaves, caves, cliffs, tree holes, thick cover and other simple, ready made shelters. All though all four species of great apes have now been documented using rudimentary tools in the wild, there is no evidence of complex shelter construction by any, other than Homo sapiens. The same can be said about monkeys.
What this means for Bigfoot researchers are two fold; first, are the documented stick structures attributed to these animals shelters or something else, if they build shelters why can’t we find them and why would they be the only other primate except man that builds shelters? Second, what are a Sasquatches’ priorities in selecting their shelters? Is it predation avoidance from man, social structure such as family groups or food distribution and density? I believe discovering their main source of shelter has the potential for being the biggest bombshell in Bigfoot research. Based on anecdotal evidence, published reports and personal experience, when I am in the field I find myself studying tall trees and steep, inaccessible cliffs in a whole new way. I’m just saying…..
And that brings us to mating. Do these animals have one, lifelong mate or like most great apes does the dominate male have multiple mates, forcing the adolescent males out on their own when they reach sexual maturity.
I believe they have one mate for these two reasons. First the great apes live in larger groups. This creates certain advantage for a ‘dominate male’ type of social structure. This would be the ‘you can’t have more than one cook in kitchen’ scenario. Most likely Sasquatch lives in smaller, less detectable groups than other great apes. A monogamous relationship would be beneficial for them in terms of growth rate control, mobility, survival training of the young and encounter avoidance. Secondly, a pattern in research data shows that when multiple animals are either witnessed, or their footprints found, it is common for there to be a male, a female and one juvenile.
I was recently asked if I thought they had a mating season. I wish they did. I can only imagine what a rutting bull Sasquatch would be like. It would certainly make some of our research easier. Instead I expressed my opinion that I think they can mate all year long, like most great apes, but they probably attempt to limit birthing to times of the year when survival of the infant would be highest. I have no proof of this, just my rational opinion and one more interesting quandary about them being the only wild primate living in North America.
If we concentrate on the three Bigfoot basics, sex, food and shelter, maybe we will get some unexpected results. We might figure out how to consistently recognize feeding areas, some unfortunate person may stumble onto an effective mating call, or someone might figure out conclusive facts about their shelters, which would definitely blow open the field.
Based on the three basics even Sasquatches need, I would recommend the following when doing field research;
Do not wear any kind of primate estrogen as an attractant, just in case.
Do not act like a tasty fat doe, just in case.
Keep looking up, just in case.
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2010 Bigfoot Expedition - Chapter 1
By Moose Magnet | September 15, 2009
I have decided that I want to go back to where it all began. I want to go back to where I saw tracks when I was eighteen in the back country of Wyoming. The area is very remote and I think could yeild some cool activity. I would think that the Squatch’s have not been worked there at all so would not be use to anything we do. There were many things that happened there that at the time were very wierd and we could not explain. There were noises, eyeshine, feelings and of course the tracks. I have been thinking about the tracks and that they were left in such an excellent track trap. Why? I am hoping they have passed that trait down and they have continued not to be nervous about leaving tracks. This is not the first time I have heard of Bigfoot leaving tracks so easy to find in such remote places. I also think they will approach us and be a little braver than most. I am also hoping for vocalizations due to the fact it is so remote. The draw back will be that we do not have any real good equipment. I hope to have a new camcorder by then and hopefully my two cheap camera traps are working. So far I have a few takers for this. It will require a back pack trip. We may even hire some horses to take stuff back for us and then pick it up.
John…
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Back to UpChuck
By Slugger | September 14, 2009
Aug,29 2009
Luckycharms, myself and a newbie which we will call Snowglobe took a trip up to Upchuck to mainly camp and do a little squatching. We got there a little before dark and set up camp and started a fire. We sat around the fire and talked for a while as we were waiting for it to get a little darker so we could go squatching. Around 10 o-clock we decided it was time and we walked about 50 yards from camp which was not as far as we wanted but there were a lot of other campers up this weekend. So when we decided that we had gone far enough we discussed the game plan and protocol for squatching with Snowglobe. Shortly after we had lucky do a howl and another shortly after then we listened for a response.. All we heard in reply from other campers that seemed to be having a party! Lucky did one more call and then we decided to return to the fire and relax, and try to be louder then the rest of the camper! After an hour had gone by we decided to go back to our spot and do some more vocals! This time Lucky did a howl and then after a couple minutes I did a couple woops! We followed up with me doing more woops and Snowglobe copying me so she could try. This time we heard something, a faint howl coming from up the Canyon and up the mountain! Which was the opposite direction of the campers we heard earlier but it was not a definitive sound so we can not say it was anything spectacular! After this we again returned to the camp to get ready for bed! So unfortunately we had a pretty uneventful night!
Slugger
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Watching a Sasquatch for an hour
By Boogeyman | September 14, 2009
09-10-09
10:35 pm.
BFRO Expedition
Redwoods; Northern California
I was assigned to take four people attending their first expedition out for the night. Earlier in the day, Moose Magnet and I scouted the area looking for places that would carry vocalizations through the forest and allow us to scan through the thick underbrush and trees with a thermal imager.
My group and I arrived at the first scouted position at 9:50 pm. We were in a stand of Redwoods with thick undergrowth. The terrain dropped off from the trail towards the East. We viewed the area with a thermal imager for forty five minutes without seeing anything. I whooped twice and it carried through the forest as expected. Five minutes after I whooped, a large heat signature appeared eighty six yards below us in thick cover. As a group, we watched the figure for sixty five minutes, sharing the thermal imager between us.
I personally observed the following; A profile of a large round head with no noticeable ears, on top of a massive shoulder and arm. I could see down to what I guessed to be the elbow area. The figure was never still, it swayed most of the time and several times I could see the head rotating as it looked around and in our direction. Twice as it rotated its head I could clearly see the head was cone shaped. Several times the figure would move within a fifteen foot area, going from one opening in the brush to another. Once the figure became lower and it appeared like I was looking straight down on its head and shoulders. The heat signature from the head was brighter than the shoulders and the outline of the head was still distinguishable from the shoulders. I don’t know if it was laying down facing us or bent over at the waist and facing us up the hill.
Other members of the party observed the following; While it was in profile, it bent over at the waist and rotated it’s head in our direction, it seemed to be looking around a small trunk of one of the bushes. I whooped again and it became agitated, moved around in the opening it was using and filled up the opening with more of its body. I believe it either stood up more or turned to face us, both of which would have filled up the space. Members saw it swaying and its head rotating.
After sixty five minutes of observing the heat signature, members of the group became uncomfortable and wanted to return to the parking lot.
Two days later Moose Magnet, myself and one member of the group that observed the animal returned to the location during the day to measure the distance, make comparative observations through the thermal imager and look for physical evidence of a large animal in the area. Moose Magnet climbed down through the thick underbrush. Guided by myself and the second observer he found the location where the animal had been standing. He found the area to be groomed with a cleared forest floor, two observation mounds that had been compacted, hardened and cleared of debris, a track line in the pine needles and duff with a six foot four inch stride. He also noted that people standing on the trail could be clearly seen when standing in one of several openings in the bushes and that the area appeared to have been used more than once as an observation area.
Moose Magnet, who is six foot two inches tall, looked tiny in comparison. It was very difficult to follow his movement or find where he was standing with the thermal imager. With out the thermal imager he was impossible to detect unless he shook the tall bushes over his head.
After discussing what I saw with the other witness, and comparing it to Moose Magnet standing and walking in the same location, we concluded the following; The animal was far easier to see in the underbrush because of it’s height and size, the animal’s head was twice as big, the animal stood two and half to three feet taller, it’s over all size and mass was three times larger. Because of the undergrowth, if it had been a bear we wouldn’t be able to see it. We may have been able to see parts of an elk, but not a clear outline sticking above the bushes.
Conclusion; I observed a Sasquatch through a thermal imager for sixty five minutes after I whooped twice and it approached to investigate.
Boogeyman
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Eyes in the Darkness…
By Moose Magnet | September 1, 2009
August 28, 2009 - Eyes in the Darkness…
Well we decided to take another trip to Prime Rib and try some techniques to see if they generate the same results. We think we may have stumble across something to generate some curiosity in them. But in all reality who knows if what we are doing really works or if it is all blind luck. If it keeps working in this area it may not work in another areas. So our next trip will be to a new area to test the results.
We had some of the core group go which included GITD, Skoo, EJ, Spartan117, Lucky Charms, Slugger and myself. We also had a new comer to our group who we will refer to as Shenzi. Shenzi has never gone Squatching before so this was a first. Shenzi is curious but doesn’t really have an opinion per say.
On the way up Shenzi said I didn’t warn about Sluggers driving and that Shenzi and GITD were suffering from it. I think they would have suffered no matter what vehicle they were in. I think Slugger was actually doing it on purpose.
We arrived before it got dark and then made our way to where we were going to spend the evening. Shortly after dark we talked to a couple of locals that were making their way by us. We played some sounds for them and they said they have heard them before and that they hear them every time they come up but at a different location. It was too late for us to make it to that location so we will try that one another time. Anyway they were very helpful and friendly even after I told them what we were doing.
We were just sitting around making light conversation and just after 2100 GITD thought there was something on the road walking up in our direction out of the corner of GITD’s eye. GITD’s first impression was that someone was walking towards us but when GITD turned to look nothing was to be seen. Could have just crossed the pass from cover to cover.
Just as a note we did hear noises from time to time fairly often when we were up there but I am only going to mention noises that may have been linked to something that happened. The noises could have been anything in all honesty.
GITD, Lucky Charms and Shenzi left the sitting area to go and use the bathroom around 2124. They were taking a while so I yelled at around 2131 if they were okay. They replied that they were. About 40 seconds after I yelled a rock or object hit the slope above us. It sounded like rock on rock. At 2132 Lucky Charm asked if we did a whoop and we had not. We did not hear anything but they said they heard a whoop but it was not real loud. At 2133 GITD asked if we had our red head lamps on which we did not. About two minutes after that I heard something just off of the path they took to use the restroom. I then told Lucky Charms to do a howl. About three minutes after that they came back. We asked what had happened. They said they were up there and they heard what sounded like a whoop. Then just before they asked if we had a red lamp on Lucky Charms saw a red illumination similar to what Lucky had seen at UpChuck. It was pointed out to Shenzi and Shenzi asked what it was. Lucky said it looks like an eye shine like what was seen at UpChuck. GITD agreed. They then asked if we had our lamps on because it was just off the trail they took to go up there. The same place I heard noise from. They said it was as bright as a headlamp but did not give off light. We did the experiment showing how a head lamp also lights up the surrounding area and the person. This did not do that. They only saw one and made the comment that it was spying on them while they peed. We always try to disprove what is going on just to make sure we are not misidentifying something. This red glow did not give off light like the head lamp. It is similiar to all of the other eye shines they have witnessed.
2140 EJ saw the red glow again and then felt a wave of emotion.
2142 it was Sluggers turn to go and use the potty chair. Lucky went with Slugger up the same path the others took earlier.
2145 GITD says there was movement on the other side of the road and it was lighter than everything else. Shenzi happened to be looking in the same direction and confirmed it. Shenzi thought it was imagination running wild until GITD said something.
I called up to Lucky and requested a howl at 2150. Skoo followed with two whoops from our location about a minute later. About a minute later Skoo mentioned that a dark spot above us was now gone. Skoo also mentioned that there was red eye shine there but not bright.
2154 Slugger and Lucky returned and said they heard a really low “Whoo, Whoo” when they started coming back. It was really faint from the direction of the first red eye shine. I did a howl a couple of minutes later.
2205 Slugger did one wood knock.
2207 Slugger did three wood knocks. Shortly after that Lucky Charms suggested we split up into two groups. Lucky, GITD, Slugger and Shenzi went up the trail above us by about thirty yards. We could still see their location with ease and they had a slightly better view because they were higher than we were.
2212 Lucky’s group started singing and making noise. We joined in and it got pretty crazy. I think Shenzi was a little suprised at what we were doing and I could hear Shenzi just laughing the entire time.
2222 Lucky said there was eye shine in front of my group and to the right while everyone was still singing. This was in the direction of where the eye shine was seen earlier or I should say in the same group of trees and shrubs (this is where later eye shine would be seen too). I didn’t catch that until I listened to the recording. During the time I didn’t hear Lucky. Just a few seconds after Lucky said that I started call blasting.
2226 Right after I was done Slugger called and said GITD was looking at eye shine with the Night Vision. GITD had spotted it while I was call blasting. The Night Vision is GEN1 with an Infrared Illuminator. The Illuminator emits a beam of infrared light and is good to over 100 yards. When that beam hits an animal that is capable of seeing in the dark the eyes light up like Christmas tree lights if the animal is looking in your direction. I have had our core group look at my neighbors black lab at night (and other animals) to get a reference and the dog looked like a demon dog with the glowing bright green eyes. Anyway GITD has seen the dog and said that is what was now being seen in the night vision (the glowing green eyes). It was hiding behind a tree just about fifteen to twenty feet from my group and to the right but was giving the impression it was looking at the upper group. The one eye was moving and blinking. I grilled GITD on the location, if it was close to the tree, if it was moving, if it was blinking etc… I wanted to make sure. It was on a slope and I wanted to make sure it was not something else like star light or another animal. Then I said you have to let the others see it too so we have more than one witness. GITD said it moved to the other side of the tree closer to us and that there was now another eye shine lower and both are now visible. GITD didn’t want to give up the NV but finally passed it to Lucky Charms. GITD also mentioned the area behind the eye was black or darker than everything else.
2231 Lucky sees two in the NV and GITD sees a red eye shine in the same place without the NV. Just prior to this with direction from the upper group I realized I was looking in the wrong spot. I am now looking in the right location and also realized that I had heard something from this location prior to all of the eye shine being seen. This was not far from the area where they had seen the eye shine while using the restroom. Or at least it was in the same clump of trees and shrubs.
2237 Shenzi is now looking. Shenzi sees it go back and forth from one side of the tree to the other and changing elevations. Shenzi also sees both eyes from one subject while using the NV. I have also been watching the tree for movement since I realized where this was all taking place. I did take my eyes off of it from time to time to look around and look back at the upper group.
2238 As I am watching the tree I see sky suddenly appear where it was once black. The crook of the tree is no longer pitch black and I can now see patches of sky through it. It appears something was blocking the light and has now moved. Two minutes later Shenzi said it move dramatically. Then the NV was given to Slugger.
2241 Lucky and Shenzi see red eye shine move from one side of the tree to the other without the NV. From left to right. At this time it could be watching us. This entire time each person commented about the slight movement of the eye shine and that it was blinking while they were looking through the NV.
2242 Shenzi wants to walk down to our location to verify. I told her no and that if they wanted I would go to that location to see if it leaves.
2244 Once Slugger gets the NV and stands up we believe this is when they left. I could hear noises on the recording but at this time I was yelling instructions so I did not hear anything leave. The ground in the area is duff, loose earth and pine needles.
2246 I walked over to where the eyes where and nothing was there. We then went through a series of test. I had all four of them look at me with the NV while I was crouching down. They said my eyes were not bright enough nor big enough. I then stood up to see if that was how tall the eyes were. They said the eyes were taller. I then stretched my hand and it was still taller. We estimated that the eyes were at least eight and a half feet above the ground. After I we did the test with me near the tree area I went up to where they were sitting to see for myself. I found where there butts where and had Lucky and Slugger come up. I asked questions on where they had seen them so I could move around to verify they did not see something by mistake. I could not make anything out the gave a reflection from the NV. I even phsically checked the area and I found nothing.
Before we left we checked the area out where we thought they were standing. There was signs of large compressed areas. There was also upturned earth and other signs of recent passage. But because of the type of materials I could not make out any toes nor fingers. We were running out of time for the night so we could not track extensively but it appeared there was track lines from the underbrush to the tree area with several impressions around the tree area.
Do I wish I had some thermals here and the answer would be yes. I think the Squatches are ballsy in this area. The last few times we have been here we have had up close and personal encounters with our group. The individuals that lead us to this area have also confirmed this too. If I had some good camera traps this might be a good spot for them.
I guess we will let the reader decide for themselves. I know that four of individuals in our group believe they were watching a Squatch or two.
Moose Magnet…
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A night of throwing…
By Moose Magnet | August 17, 2009
Kind of strange but this was our first trip in Utah without being on a BFRO Expedition. I was looking forward to this new area we call Prime Rib because of how much activity we have been hearing about this place. This was a larger group than normal. Boogeyman brought his entire family with him this time and then there was my Mother in Law who came with us along with GITD, Skoo, EJ, Spartan117, Lucky Charms, Slugger, Ninja Boy and myself. This was last weekend (August 14-16, 2009).
Friday night we got there and our spot was taken so we went to our back up place which was open. We then got busy setting up our camp. We had five tents to set up. As we were getting started Boogeyman showed up with his family. He then started his routine. Come to find out that his vehicle had a flat tire and he was going to have to change it.
We got everything set up, threw up a tarp and started dinner. We had Bratwurst, hotdogs, potato salad and veggies. Ninja Boy really liked my Mother In Laws potato salad. He snarfed a ton then I know he had a bunch later. It all got eaten by the next days lunch. Very good. We then broke out the Smores and cooked some up. We were having a good time chatting around the fire. We done our usual and went and loaded my truck up with firewood so we could burn to our hearts content. After we got our fill we loaded up for the nights activity. GITD, Skoo, EJ, Spartain117, Lucky Charms, Slugger, Ninja Boy, Boogeyman, one of Boogeyman’s kids and I made our way to an area we wanted to call blast from. I had created a mix of vocalizations on my iPod that we were going to blast through my megaphone. We found a spot and waited for a bit before we started. We got through the vocals and not to long after that we heard something high above us on the scree slope walking and making rocks fall down the slide. The rocks were not that large on this slope. Above the slope there was thick pine cover and to our right was a massive cliff that went straight up over a hundred feet. All of us heard this crashing and walking up there at the top. Then a short time later we heard an impact on the slope and then rocks coming down. The sound was similar to when you throw a rock down a scree slope and you have the initial loud impact followed by other rocks moving because of the impact. We played the sounds several times and sometimes during or after we would have the same thing happen. We had several instances of this. After some time we decided that it was a good chance we had some in the area and now we wanted to lure them back to camp. Several of us road walked back to camp and I played the sounds from time to time, we also did some bio calls. Nothing definitive happened while going back to camp. After arriving at camp we discussed what had happened and that we needed to go back the next day and throw some rocks down another scree slope for comparison (we did that and it was almost identical to the night before which led us to believe we had something throwing rocks part way down the slope). After chatting for a bit Lucky Charms went to bed. I then remembered I wanted to set up a camera over there. I went over there and was kneeling down and within about thirty feet of me it sounded like something got up, walked off rather briskly and breaking some branches. Scared the crap out of me. I looked up with my red light to instinctively see but saw nothing because of the foliage. After about thirty seconds I whispered to see if Lucky Charms was awake. Lucky heard everything and we believe whatever it was gave us the impression it was on two legs and heavy. After everyone went to bed Lucky and GITD called me and mentioned that they heard something. Another note worthy thing. My Mother in Law went to bed and while we were gone she said it sounded like something was walking around the camp area. She said it sound like it was on two legs. She is in the dark as to what we are doing and doesn’t believe in Bigfoot. I found that interesting. We looked for tracks the next day and determined the area was so hard, rained and cattle in the area left so much sign we couldn’t find anything conclusive. Oh ya. It rained on us after we went to be… again!!!
I got up around 9am and Boogeyman was all packed up and leaving. His tent got flooded that night and it took him an hour and a half to change his tire. What a horrible night. After that we cooked pancakes for breakfast. We went out looking for tracks and because of all the activity I could not find anything conclusive. Bummer. We found a spot that looked like elbow or something dug into the ground a bit wider than my shoulders but who knows. We also found a spot that may have been a but print. We found that because last night we heard something hit a bottle, almost like a rock or something. We heard it twice, so the next day we found an empty beer bottle just across the road from camp and what look like a butt impression in the dirt with other sign around it. The only thing for me is it wasn’t much wider than my butt. Again we couldn’t find much else to say we had something. After lunch we went up to the scree area and tested out our theory. We also hung out the for around an hour to see if rocks or anything fell in that time period. Not one rock noise within that time frame. We had several rock disturbances the night before in an hours time.
The next night we had more of the same planned. Before we did anything we had Dutch Oven BBQ chicken and Dutch Oven potatoes. It was awesome. We ran out of time for the peach cobbler so that would be for lunch tomorrow. We went back up to the scree slope. This time I waited longer to see if anything happened and it did not. We again played the sounds. About ten minutes after all the sounds were done which last sixteen and a half minutes a large rock hit not to far from part of our group that split off. They said it was loud. I didn’t hear it because it was windy at the time. We did the more sound, mostly the ones we thought were doing the best and sure enough. During and after we had what sound like rocks being hurled down the scree slope and hitting part of the way down and then causing more rocks to move. After a bit we decided we had a good chance of them being in the area. We then went and did the same thing. This time when I arrived in camp with my younger boys and I was sitting there for a bit I heard two whistles close together and from separate directions. I radioed the road walkers and found they were not far from camp. I almost felt like on was signaling the other that the road walkers were coming. Not to long after we got back everyone but my Mother in Law (she was in bed) Spartan117 (in bed) and EJ who was drying his feet went out and did what I am calling the ‘MP tactic’. The initials are from one of our trackers. So we are out doing this and we all sit down to pause. Well I don’t want EJ back at camp by his lonesome so I go back. I come to find out that as I left something moved off to the groups left and sounded like it was on two legs on not to far away. I sat back at camp and they are singing when there singing changed to something else but couldn’t make out what they were doing. Then I hear one of them yell, “can we come back to camp.” I thought they were just done and cold so I yell back, “NO!” I don’t remember who got on the radio but I asked them what was going on and why they wanted to come back. They said they had something thrown at them from the opposite direction of the previous sound and that they have been hearing loud crunching sound from above them coming from the small hill. The projectile hit and bounced as if it came in on a horizontal trajectory and everyone of them heard it. I asked them if they are sure it did not fall from above. They said there was not a tree above them and that it skipped pretty far. I said, “why come back to camp, I thought this is what you wanted to happen.” Then I hear GITD yell, “maybe I need to rethink what I want.” I coaxed them to stay a bit longer. Skoo and Ninja Boy heard something that sounded like a large thud against the ground above them. They said it was like someone picking up a big rock and slamming it into the ground. After a bit I told them to come back to camp. They wasted no time in doing that. Before bed while sitting around the fire we heard other noises but nothing conclusive. That night at 4:45am I did hear two whistles again. I hope on got them on the recorder.
We had a good time and some who were skeptical before the trip are leaning even more towards the believing side. Ninja Boy said they had a deer with opposable thumbs throw something at them. He believes a little bit more now. The company, the food and the fun make these trips worth it. Then if something happens all the better. Until next time.
Cheers,
Moose Magnet…
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Have you found it yet?…
By Moose Magnet | August 11, 2009
Have you found it yet? That is the most common thing that is asked when someone finds out I look for Bigfoot. It is not a bad thing but I often wonder why that is the statement. Some may not know what to say so that is what comes out. Others I believe by the tone are making light of the subject which is fine too.
I think I am going to start responding that I have found him and he is messy to live with and we have went through many a hair dryer with that dude. I thought my cat shed, this is a whole new meaning to leaving hair around. The worst thing is the clogged drains. Oh my!!
I always use the think a St. Bernard was a bad pet for what they left behind. You have no idea. All I got to say is I will never train him to use the toilet. I don’t think they make a plunger big enough for that job. For paper we have to use sixty grit sand paper because you don’t want him sitting on anything if that has not been used.
We have been trying to find doggy mints for our new puppy but can you imagine the breath on this one. You thought their howls were chilling. We have invested in weapons grade gas masks just so we can talk to him. I have to also use my tree trimmer for his nails. I thought pruning a tree was bad. Whatever.
There are several good things about him though. The floor definitely creaks when he is sneaking to the fridge in the middle of the night so he can’t blame the missing ham on someone else. Halloween is AWESOME!! Throw some spooky music on, put him in a chair with the candy bowl and sit back and video the rest. You only have to buy one bag of candy a year. When my daughter brings home a boy friend I don’t like he is in for a surprise. Oh ya!! The days of me sitting in the front room sharping my knife are long gone.
I think after about ten to fifteen minutes of rattling off information like it might just turn into a good conversation.
Cheers, John aka. Moose Magnet…
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BFRO California 2009 Expedition… counting down…
By Moose Magnet | August 4, 2009
Well I am counting down the days before we head out to California for our last BFRO Expedition this year. I look forward to hooking up with friends and catching up on their activities over the summer. It is going to be a great time.
We do have one trip here before then. We are going to spend a couple of nights in a new area we are working. Looks very promising with some recent sightings. We are also going to have enough people to really to some quality Squatching.
Moose Magnet…
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